It’s “Too Early to Say’ Trump Shouldn’t be Impeached
Some are suggesting it’s extravagant for liberals to talk about Trump’s impeachment.
“These are completely legitimate demands that have the best interests of the American public at heart. We want neither a conspirator in the Oval Office, nor an avalanche of conspiracy theories that undermine trust in American democratic institutions. We need cold, hard facts and a fair, legal process for investigation. Individuals on the left who believe that Trump’s time in office is inevitably coming to a close before a years’ time are making as false an assumption as lawmakers on the right who believe that the current fervor over the Russia scandal will die down over time. A promise from the left: the longer Trump is in office without meaningful steps toward investigation, the stronger and louder the voices will become in demanding them. This is NOT getting swept under the rug. But impeachment doesn’t just happen either, and liberals need to come to terms with that”
First of all this is overall an excellent piece that argues Dem Senators should exchange confirmation of Gorsuch in exchange for real hearings on Trump-Russia. It’s clear Devon Nunes is not the man for the job.
But the most I’ll say on impeachment is its obvious we must have hearings first. But I don’t follow those who say conclusively that Trump has not committed or not yet committed impeachable offenses. Without real hearings-that Devon Nunes clearly is not inrested in, how do you know?
“Commenters keep telling me that I have to stop being such an elitist, and listen to the gripes of the average American. (Personally, I’d rather listen to the gripes of the average Bangladeshi.) For example, take this recent poll:
Three weeks into Trump’s run as president, a poll was published by Public Policy Polling that illustrates the divide in the country: 46 percent of voters are in favor of impeaching Trump, and 46 percent are opposed.
“So 54% of Americans either favor impeaching Trump or are undecided. I’m in the minority, with the 46% of Americans who are firmly opposed to impeaching Trump. What makes elitists like me unwilling to listen to the voice of average Americans? I think it’s because elitist intellectuals understand the importance of process. It might provide momentary pleasure to impeach a president you hate, just as it would be nice to muzzle some neo-Nazi spouting off in your neighborhood. But in the long run our society will be better off if we don’t follow our Latin American cousins, and instead adhere to clearly spelled out democratic procedures. One of those procedures is that we elect a president every 4 years, and that person can only be removed from office for high crimes and misdemeanors. (I don’t quite know what that means either, but I’m pretty sure it doesn’t apply to Trump . . . yet.)”
“I understand that “process” is something that only college professors care about, but that doesn’t mean it’s not important. Because I favor a rules-based regime, I’m ignoring the popular will on Trump and sticking with the 46% who favor sticking with Trump, for the moment.”
“Ironically, one of the many unappealing features of Trump is that he has zero understanding of the importance of process, indeed less so that any major American politician in my lifetime. For Trump, it’s all about “winning”.
Sumner is saying as much as you may not like Trump-and he doesn’t like Trump-and even though you may believe he’s a terrible President-Sumner also agrees with that-nevertheless, you must respect the process and you can’t just impeach him as you don’t like him or even that he’s a bad President.
Actually it’s not as cut and dried as this might suggest. John Dean-Nixon’s lawyer-points out that impeachment is a legal but a mostly political process. In principle you don’t impeach a President for simply being a bad President but for committing ‘high crimes and misdemeanors.’
But the definition of this is also political.
But as far as the process is concerned Trump wasn’t elected via a legitimate process so it’s hard to argue that removing him would be a legitimate one.
The James Comey letter makes it illegitimate as well as Russia’s interference. If it is shown that Trump’s campaign coordinated with Russia then you really will have a basis for impeachment.
Trump is also violating the Constitution on a daily basis by using the office to enrich himself as he does every day and every hour. It’s why Nixon’s VP, Spiro Agnew, had to go.
Now you can argue it’s too early to say Trump committed an impeachable offense, but that’s the most you can say. But it’s also too early to say he didn’t. That will come only when we have real investigations rather than the fake investigations of Devon Nunes and Richard Burr.
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