History Lesson: no Democrats did not Shut Out Republicans in Obamacare Bill 2009
Some Republicans are getting so desperate, they’re discussing the unthinkable-working with Democrats.
Mitch McConnell will get Lisa Murkowski excommunicated for heresy
— mike sax (@evilsax) June 28, 2017
Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) criticized the recent healthcare reform talks on Wednesday, saying the negotiations should have been done on bipartisan basis with Democrats.
“I wish we were doing this on a bipartisan basis,” Johnson told CNN’s Chris Cuomo on “New Day.”
“I think it was a mistake saying right away we were going to do this partisan, that’s where we’re out. Maybe what we’re going to have to do is our partisan bill, Democrats do theirs, we’re not going to fix all of these problems. Then maybe, maybe everybody will sit down and lets long-term fix the healthcare system, let’s start controlling healthcare costs,” the Wisconsin senator continued.
It was a mistake but, of course, this is how Mitch McConnell wanted it. But what you also also here are some Republicans say that they shouldn’t shutout Democrats as the Democrats shutout them in 2009.
For instance John McCain said this to MSNBC reporters a few minutes ago. That is simply not true.
The Democrats-led by Obama-sought bipartisan rapprochement with the GOP, arguably to a fault.
The Democrats compromises for GOP support a lot-I think too much-and got nothing.
I was personally, as a Democrat, frustrated there was no public option even considered. Many have blamed Senator Max Baucus as some fiendish puppet of the insurers. But the main reason was actually-Obama really wanted a deal with the GOP.
He directed Baucus to find it. Republicans like Chuck Grassley told Baucus that he’d be willing to work on a deal if only the Dems would take the public option off the table. The public option was taken off the table.
And yet there was no GOP buy in. So the Democrats scrapped the PO for GOP buy in and then got no GOP buy in.
Maybe Grassley and other Republicans were even sincere. What Grassley and others later confided was that McConnell made it clear he didn’t think that was a good idea. Again-as I’ve argued, McConnell is an evil but clever turtle.
He’s not ham handed like Trump who setback his own case with those Super PAC ads going after Dean Heller.
McConnell rarely gives anyone a direct order but he let’s his feelings be known and they have great weight.
That’s what’s so dangerous about McConnell-in many ways his contempt for democracy-is just as deep as Herr Trump’s. Certainly McConnell is just as contemptuous as Trump is of public transparency-as he’s also been banning the media from Capitol Hill.
But unlike Herr Trump, McConnell has great patience and discipline.
UPDATE: Speak of the devil.
“McConnell is trying to revise the Senate health-care bill by Friday.”
I made this point earlier-Senate Trumpcare is on life support but it’s not dead yet. We have to make sure the plug is pulled and is not plugged back in after.
The bottom line is, the Democrats tried to work with the GOP to a fault in 2009. McConnell came into this with the intention of passing it solely with GOP votes-he flat out doesn’t want Democratic votes.
Greg Sargent notes his game has now been exposed. McConnell will still try to press this zombie bill in a couple of ways:
“McConnell will be employing at least two tactics. First, he will use several hundred billion dollars that CBO says the bill would save to try to buy off moderate opponents with side deals, such as increased funding for Medicaid or opioid treatment.”
“Second, McConnell will press the argument that if this bill does not pass, Republicans will have no choice but to negotiate over the future of the Affordable Care Act with Democrats. ”
“Multiple reports have said that McConnell has privately warned Republicans that failure would mean they must enter into talks with Dems on ways to shore up the individual markets, which would effectively mean a chance to pass a partisan repeal bill is gone.”
” McConnell’s argument to fellow Republicans — that failure means talks with Dems over the ACA’s future — concedes a number of points. It concedes that, despite Trump’s claim of a desire for talks with Democrats, Republicans cannot work with Dems, as long as Republicans remain wedded to their own priorities — that there is simply no bipartisan consensus possible, as long as Republicans are hell bent on cutting health spending on poor people by hundreds of billions of dollars to finance an enormous tax cut for the rich. After all, McConnell is arguing that passing a bill that does this, on a purely partisan basis, is the only way to avert any need to dilute the GOP’s devotion to those priorities.”
Indeed. I noticed Chuck Todd played into this illuison yesterday when he demanded of Ben Cardin what Democrats can offer Republicans to come to a bipartisan agreement.
Right away I recalled why I usually don’t watch Todd’s Meet the Press. He just falls for some absurd canards that almost everyone else sees through about ‘post partisan’ America.
“McConnell’s argument to Republicans also concedes that the ACA exchanges do not have to continue struggling; lawmakers can act to prevent this. And it concedes that Republicans will not want that to happen, and will feel pressure to do something about it (presumably because, as a recent Kaiser poll suggested, they risk taking the blame for it). McConnell is basically conceding that Republicans can’t just let the ACA implode, as Trump seems to believe.”
“This could have real consequences for the coming debate, should the GOP bill fail. The Trump administration is likely to continue trying to sabotage the exchanges if this happens, by employing, among others, tactics such as continually refusing to clarify whether it will renew cost-sharing reductions and generally sowing uncertainty over the ACA’s future. This is already having a real impact on the health of the exchanges. And so, we could soon see a battle over who is to blame for the ACA’s continued problems, and a jockeying for political advantage if bipartisan talks do start. In that context, Dems can spotlight McConnell’s admissions in a helpful way.”
First, however, this terrible zombi, Trumpcare, must be killed for real, once and for all. It must die in a deep and dark grave and no Republican must ever feel comfortable threatening this in broad daylight again.
— Scott Dworkin (@funder) June 27, 2017
This angry father really lets this GOP Rep have it: You have been the biggest threat to my family in the entire world.
Very powerful. Kind of goes to a point I made earlier-we need a restraining order against the Republican party. Certainly our healthcare system does. Also the Russia investigation.
Speaking of a restraining order let’s start here in NY 2 with Peter King-who voted for Senate Trumpcare that does so much harm to so many Americans that will literally kill over 200,000 people in the next 10 years-which is why that father was dead right.
P.S. The media release from my very surprising poll vs. Peter King NY 2 is out. It’s very surprising as I-Mike Sax-am actually leading 51-41. I know, but the numbers don’t lie.
If you believe that 25 years is enough for an imperious monarch like Peter King NY-2 who is a Republican first and an American second and is too arrogant to even speak to his own constituents please help me any way you can. If you live in the area you can volunteer-or at least tell everyone you know. And no matter where you are in the country, donations help.
Mike Sax is the One to Dethrone the King
As for the good question as who the heck is Mike Sax, read this: